Topic: Windows / Linux

[gryphon]

quote from Tictac :

For a further disc on this open a new thread.

who can resist such an offer

so let's see what we all prefer .. what we like more or what we don't want to see at all on our computer !

Mayby most important is the function the machine is going to fulfill. Is it going to be a server, and if so what kind of applications or services is it going to run. As a Linux DHCP-server can be set to a much higher priorety level then a Windows one can.

If it's going to be used as a home computer or workstation .. you have to consider communication with other network computers and compatebilety with the applications it's gon'na run. If we like it or not, still most home applications are being written for Windows based computers. Shure, Linux has office, photoshop and even games like  MOH or the Ragnarok or NeverwinterNights version. Although the bigger games are still being released for Windows [ so I am not talking about the 23455'ste version of Tuc Chess or ].

And as most people are found of Linux because you have access to the source of the OS and programms. . about the source of the OS. . how many people you know are really capable of understanding what it all means. . .and of that group .. how many really have the time to look at it and do what it with they want .. .
Like Bill Joy mentioned. . I don't need to see the source code. I just want a system that works.

Microsoft has been in a leading possition for some time now. . and not because they made good programms or great new ideas  .. look at the XBoX. They have been looking at there competition and adapting. . from Novell's directory structure. . to the Office applictions . . and who knows to some sort of Linux advantage.

Mayby some leads .. or then mayby not. . . so. . what is it for you . .and why ..

what my preference is. . . at this point it's Windows NT5.X.
[ after tweaked that is ] ..

[TicTac]

Ok, i had a huge post, at least a whole page, and IE crashed. It never does that... I must have typed linux too often!

I dont want to say nice things about Microsoft right now. Perhaps later. Btw, KDE integrated software crashes more often.

[number6]

Ok, i had a huge post, at least a whole page, and IE crashed. It never does that... I must have typed linux too often!

I dont want to say nice things about Microsoft right now. Perhaps later. Btw, KDE integrated software crashes more often.

Probably because KDE runs under the X windowing environment and not really a KDE problem.  Linux is not a great GUI based OS, but it kicks ass for running services like http and php. I think Windows is the proper choice for applications, but Linux is far superior, and cheaper, than any of the Windows server products.

I am also not a big fan of how Microsoft tries and dictate what the next "big thing" is going to be in development tools to the whole industry. Microsoft is famous for trying to copy and extend technology, like Java, and actually ruining the whole platform independence that drove the design in the first place. At least MS did not get away with trying to replace Java, but that is their plan with products like C# and .NET.  I think Java, C and C++ are doing just fine thank you very much and I won't even go into the evil that is .NET.

[TicTac]

I think Windows is the proper choice for applications, but Linux is far superior, and cheaper, than any of the Windows server products.

Yeah. Do we have a few great examples of server applications compared to windows alternatives? Exception, for a webserver i will choose IIS over Apache every day. I favor .net and asp.net for both website and -application development.

Probably because KDE runs under the X windowing environment and not really a KDE problem.

The parts of a X windowing environment are the X server and X protocol (draw basic stuff, fonts, user input), widget sets (to create windows, menus and buttons, ...), a window manager (behaviour of windows), desktop environment (such as KDE and GNome).  KDE uses Kwin as window manager, although it can be replaced. If only the KDE webbrowser crashes it's most likely the browser or some KDE component.

I am also not a big fan of how Microsoft tries and dictate what the next "big thing" is going to be in development tools to the whole industry.

I think Java, C and C++ are doing just fine thank you very much and I won't even go into the evil that is .NET.

They don't always dictate. Lot's of innovation going on. And in the end the 'whole industry' will decide, not Microsoft. Personally i think .net, their development tool Visual Studio.net and the new languages c# and vb.net rock!! If you call that evil you are stuck in a technology timeloop!

Microsoft is famous for trying to copy and extend technology, like Java, and actually ruining the whole platform independence that drove the design in the first place.

True Java and C# have mostly simular syntax, but the same can be said for many other languages. Besides languages continually evolve, this goes for Java and c++ too. Platform independence has nothing to do with the language itself!

All the .net and java stuff is off topic but i sure as hell aint gonna let another post get away I will post my comparison of windows/linux later.

I run slackware and XP.
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[TicTac]

Linux is free, secure and open source. With linux i always had some piece of harware not recognized or supported. KDE looks a lot like the windows desktop and is very flexible. Everything can be changed. I still like the windows desktop better but will try to tweak my KDE desktop tonight to see how good it can get.

Windows is easy to use and has a large collection of high quality desktop applications. All hardware will work under windows. Office is hard to beat. In general Microsoft software and software for Windows is feature-rich and complete compared to linux alternatives.

I like Windows Update. I had some experience with swaret, a commandline auto updater for linux. It's not graphical but also updates applications and can check dependencies.