Author Topic: Re: Lockup issues! Post here please (Read 61574 times)

Nyarlathotep · « **Reply #30 on:** July 25, 2001, 05:15:30 am »

Okay, well...ehhmm... anything that you can think of about your specs, post it, regardless of what you need to use to get it here !!

Nayr...

[This message has been edited by Nyarlathotep (edited 07-25-2001).]

Nyarlathotep · « **Reply #31 on:** July 25, 2001, 05:25:30 am »

Posted by Chris (admin):

"alley_cat,
By chance, do you have Microsoft Voice Commander? There is a known conflict between BINK (our movie player) and MS Voice Commander. There is a new bink.dll available from www.radgametools.com which fixes the movie crash problem, if that is the cause.

--Chris"

Thanks Chris !

Nyar...

Nyarlathotep · « **Reply #32 on:** July 25, 2001, 05:31:30 am »

A post from The Tyrants Duncan (do not know what is solves, but here goes):

"A hint (this worked for me with Mech Warrior 4, Starsiege, baldurs Gate 2, and Diablo 2):
If you have got a burner and you have a dell comp, do not USE THE OTHER CD DRIVE! that stupid drive gave me so much trouble.
try installing and running the game on your CD burner.
I have got the biggest piece of poo computer... 797 Pentium 3 Dell that runs slower and less reliable than my 133 Pentium 1 Compaq at least half of the time.
E:BFD works like a charm on this garbage can that some people call a computer."

Nyar...

-X-ray · « **Reply #33 on:** July 25, 2001, 07:34:30 am »

Nyar, my computer rejected the default adapter option.
but I do play with two chips of RAM (128 MB each), and I remove one of them tomorrow.
BUT if it will solve the problem, than what?
Im not going to stay with only 128MB RAM.
at least we will know what the problem is

jeromeku · « **Reply #34 on:** July 25, 2001, 07:57:30 am »

Does everyone have two CDROM drives?

I have tried disconnectin my second one altogether, but still encountered the same behavior.

jeromeku · « **Reply #35 on:** July 25, 2001, 09:44:30 am »

Nyar,
My refresh rating did not have a "default"
selection so I tried setting it to 60hz (the lowest). Same lockup behavior.

The other thing I have tried in the past is setting my desktop to the same resolution & color bit as the game. That also did not work.

I will post my specs once I have them in a file of some sort.

jeromeku · « **Reply #36 on:** July 25, 2001, 02:01:30 pm »

Nyar,
Specs from Msinfo and dxdiag follow. Im trying to find more
--------- MSINFO ----------------------
[Summary]
OS Name   Microsoft Windows 2000 Server
Version   5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 Build 2195
OS Manufacturer   Microsoft Corporation
System Manufacturer   Not Available
System Model   Not Available
System Type   X86-based PC
Processor   x86 Family 6 Model 6 Stepping 5 GenuineIntel ~500 Mhz
Processor   x86 Family 6 Model 6 Stepping 5 GenuineIntel ~500 Mhz
BIOS Version   Award Modular BIOS v4.51PG
Windows Directory   C:WINNT
System Directory   C:WINNTSystem32
Boot Device   DeviceHarddisk0Partition1
Locale   United States
Time Zone   Pacific Daylight Time
Total Physical Memory   261,680 KB
Available Physical Memory   154,252 KB
Total Virtual Memory   894,492 KB
Available Virtual Memory   690,156 KB
Page File Space   632,812 KB
Page File   C:pagefile.sys

[CD-ROM]
Drive   F:
Description   CD-ROM Drive
Media Loaded   True
Media Type   CD-ROM
Name   E-IDE CD-ROM 36X/AKU
Manufacturer   (Standard CD-ROM drives)
Status   OK
Transfer Rate   2372.09 kbytes/sec
SCSI Target ID   1

Drive   E:
Description   CD-ROM Drive
Media Loaded   False
Media Type   CD-ROM
Name   YAMAHA CRW8424E
Manufacturer   (Standard CD-ROM drives)
Status   OK
Transfer Rate   Not Available
SCSI Target ID   0

[Sound Device]
Name   Creative AWE64 Gold 16-bit Audio (SB16 compatible) (WDM)
Status   OK
PNP Device ID   ISAPNPCTL00B2_DEV00006A226DE
IRQ Number   9
I/O Port   0x0280-0x028F
I/O Port   0x0330-0x0331
I/O Port   0x0388-0x038B
Driver   c:winntsystem32driversctlsb16.sys (141904, 5.00.2160.1)

[Drives]
Drive   A:
Description   3 1/2 Inch Floppy Drive

Drive   C:
Description   Local Fixed Disk
Compressed   False
File System   FAT32
Size   7.23 GB (7,759,265,792 bytes)
Free Space   4.22 GB (4,536,090,624 bytes)

Volume Name
Volume Serial Number   376310E9
Partition   Disk #0, Partition #0
Partition Size   7.24 GB (7,774,437,888 bytes)
Starting Offset   32256 bytes
Drive Description   Disk drive
Drive Manufacturer   (Standard disk drives)
Drive Model   Maxtor 92049U6
Drive BytesPerSector   512
Drive MediaLoaded   True
Drive MediaType   Fixed hard disk media
Drive Partitions   2
Drive SCSIBus   0
Drive SCSILogicalUnit   0
Drive SCSIPort   0
Drive SCSITargetId   0
Drive SectorsPerTrack   63
Drive Size   20419854336 bytes
Drive TotalCylinders   39566
Drive TotalSectors   39882528
Drive TotalTracks   633056
Drive TracksPerCylinder   16

Drive   D:
Description   Local Fixed Disk
Compressed   False
File System   FAT32
Size   11.76 GB (12,632,481,792 bytes)
Free Space   3.16 GB (3,392,266,240 bytes)
Volume Name   D-FAT32-DRI
Volume Serial Number   281F1AEE
Partition   Disk #0, Partition #1
Partition Size   11.78 GB (12,644,868,096 bytes)
Starting Offset   Not Available
Drive Description   Disk drive
Drive Manufacturer   (Standard disk drives)
Drive Model   Maxtor 92049U6
Drive BytesPerSector   512
Drive MediaLoaded   True
Drive MediaType   Fixed hard disk media
Drive Partitions   2
Drive SCSIBus   0
Drive SCSILogicalUnit   0
Drive SCSIPort   0
Drive SCSITargetId   0
Drive SectorsPerTrack   63
Drive Size   20419854336 bytes
Drive TotalCylinders   39566
Drive TotalSectors   39882528
Drive TotalTracks   633056
Drive TracksPerCylinder   16

---------------DxDiag------------------------
System Information
------------------
Time of this report: 7/25/2001, 18:50:41
Machine name: HOTH
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 2000 Server (5.0, Build 2195) Service Pack 2
Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer:
System Model:
BIOS: Award Modular BIOS v4.51PG
Processor: Intel Celeron, MMX (2 CPUs), ~500MHz
Memory: 256MB RAM
Page File: 98MB used, 519MB available
DirectX Version: DirectX 8.0 (4.08.00.0400)
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
DxDiag Version: 5.01.2258.0400

------------
DxDiag Notes
------------
DirectX Files Tab: No problems found.
Display Tab 1: The file G400DHD.dll is uncertified, which means that it has not been tested by Microsofts Windows Hardware Quality Labs. You may be able to get a certified driver from the manufacturer of the hardware device.
DirectDraw test results: All tests were successful.
Direct3D test results: All tests were successful.
AGP texturing test results: All tests were successful.
Sound Tab 1: DirectSound test results: All tests were successful.
Music Tab: DirectMusic test results: All tests were successful.
Input Tab: No input devices detected.
No problems found.
Network Tab: The registry information for the DirectPlay application Warlords Battlecryis missing or damaged. You should reinstall that application.
DirectPlay test results: All tests were successful.

------------------
DirectX Components
------------------
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---------------
Display Devices
---------------
Card name: Matrox Millennium G400 DualHead - English
Manufacturer: Matrox Graphics Inc.
Chip type: Matrox G400
DAC type: Integrated, 300 MHz
Device ID: EnumPCIVEN_102B&DEV_0525&SUBSYS_2179102B&REV_04
Display Memory: 32.0 MB
Current Mode: 1280 x 960 (16 bit) (85Hz)
Monitor: Plug and Play Monitor
Monitor Max Res: 1600,1200
Driver Name: G400DHD.dll
Driver Version: 5.12.01.1520 (English)
DDI Version: 7
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
Driver Date/Size: 4/4/2001 14:53:40, 2412677 bytes
Driver Certified: No
WHQL Date Stamp: None
VDD:
Mini VDD: g400dhm.sys
Mini VDD Date: 4/4/2001 14:56:12, 303446 bytes
Device Identifier: {D7B71ECB-4665-11CF-6B76-7801A7C2C835}
Vendor ID: 0x102B
Device ID: 0x0525
SubSys ID: 0x2179102B
Revision ID: 0x0004
Registry: OK
DDraw Status: Enabled
D3D Status: Enabled
AGP Status: Enabled
DDraw Test Result: All tests were successful.
D3D Test Result: All tests were successful.
AGP Test Result: All tests were successful.

-------------
Sound Devices
-------------
Description: Sound Blaster AWE64 Gold
Device ID: ISAPNPCTL00b2_DEV0000
Manufacturer ID: 1
Product ID: 100
Type: WDM
Driver Name: ctlsb16.sys
Driver Version: 5.00.2160.0001 (English)
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
Driver Certified: Yes
Date and Size: 10/23/1999 13:10:34, 141904 bytes
Other Files:
Driver Provider: Microsoft
HW Accel Level: Standard
Registry: OK
Sound Test Result: All tests were successful.

-----------
DirectMusic
-----------
DLS Path: C:WINNTSYSTEM32driversGM.DLS
Version: 1.00.16.0002
Ports:
Microsoft Synthesizer, Software (Not Kernel Mode), Output, DLS, Internal, Default Port
Sound Blaster AWE64 Gold, Software (Kernel Mode), Output, DLS, Internal
Creative MPU-401, Hardware (Kernel Mode), Input, No DLS, External
Creative MPU-401, Hardware (Kernel Mode), Output, No DLS, External
Microsoft MIDI Mapper [Emulated], Hardware (Not Kernel Mode), Output, No DLS, Internal
Creative FM Synthesizer [Emulated], Hardware (Not Kernel Mode), Output, No DLS, Internal
Creative MPU-401 [Emulated], Hardware (Not Kernel Mode), Output, No DLS, External
Microsoft GS Wavetable SW Synth [Emulated], Hardware (Not Kernel Mode), Output, No DLS, Internal
AWE64G MIDI Synth [Emulated], Hardware (Not Kernel Mode), Output, No DLS, Internal
Creative MPU-401 [Emulated], Hardware (Not Kernel Mode), Input, No DLS, External
Registry: OK
Music Test Result: All tests were successful.

-------------
Input Devices
-------------
Poll w/ Interrupt: No
Registry: OK

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Input Drivers
-------------

----------------------------
DirectPlay Service Providers
----------------------------
Internet TCP/IP Connection For DirectPlay - Registry: OK, File: Internet TCP/IP Connection For DirectPlay (Internet TCP/IP Connection For DirectPlay)
IPX Connection For DirectPlay - Registry: OK, File: IPX Connection For DirectPlay (IPX Connection For DirectPlay)
Modem Connection For DirectPlay - Registry: OK, File: Modem Connection For DirectPlay (Modem Connection For DirectPlay)
Serial Connection For DirectPlay - Registry: OK, File: Serial Connection For DirectPlay (Serial Connection For DirectPlay)
DirectPlay8 Modem Service Provider - Registry: OK, File: DirectPlay8 Modem Service Provider (DirectPlay8 Modem Service Provider)
DirectPlay8 Serial Service Provider - Registry: OK, File: DirectPlay8 Serial Service Provider (DirectPlay8 Serial Service Provider)
DirectPlay8 IPX Service Provider - Registry: OK, File: DirectPlay8 IPX Service Provider (DirectPlay8 IPX Service Provider)
DirectPlay8 TCP/IP Service Provider - Registry: OK, File: DirectPlay8 TCP/IP Service Provider (DirectPlay8 TCP/IP Service Provider)
DirectPlay Test Result: All tests were successful.

-------------------------
DirectPlay Lobbyable Apps
-------------------------
Cossacks (DX7) - Registry: OK, ExeFile: Cossacks (Cossacks)
Warlords Battlecry (DX7) - Registry: Error, ExeFile: Warlords Battlecry (Warlords Battlecry)

Nyarlathotep · « **Reply #37 on:** July 25, 2001, 02:48:30 pm »

-X-ray, it will mean tht one of your dimm modules will be defective...

Nyar...

Nyarlathotep · « **Reply #38 on:** July 26, 2001, 03:12:00 pm »

jeromeku, I went over your specs 6 times, but could not find any similarity between your specs and Alley_cats. Only thing I can tell is that borh BIOS versions are a bit old, but admitting at the same time => The PII400, on which I tested the game, had the same BIOS version as yours and ran okay, so should not be that. DirextX test prove that tHere is no issue there. Im starting to get lost here, especially now you have also tried all the stuff I posted above...

I will keep looking for an answer though, so am not giving up on you, but at this point, I would welcome any support, especially now that 2 people have the exact same problem

Nyar...

jeromeku · « **Reply #39 on:** July 26, 2001, 03:29:00 pm »

Nyar,
I told you It is a really messed up problem. I even have Westwood stumped, but the only concession they would give me is return the game or send them my computer so they could debug it. Obviously that is not much of a choice. Im not going to trust them with my box out of my sight so returning it is my only option with them. I even suggested they send me a debug exe and I could send them any output it generates. Of course they will not even do that. Oh yeah... did I mention that they do not make it very easy to return as well?

Nyarlathotep · « **Reply #40 on:** July 26, 2001, 03:57:00 pm »

jeromeku, Im almost afraid to ask you this, but if you follow the link below, is it the same driver you already have (looked at your report, but could not pinpoint if it was)?

http://www.matrox.com/mga/support/drivers/files/w2k_552.cfm

Another question, what drivers did you use to install the soundcard in Win 2000?

Nyar...

jeromeku · « **Reply #41 on:** July 26, 2001, 04:50:00 am »

Nyar,
Yes that is the correct link. I have been through the driver reinstall twice at this point. Matrox uses a package version to specify sets of drivers. So the numbers are not exactly the same in dxdiag output. I have also got the latest Graphic BIOS 2.1-35

.

[This message has been edited by jeromeku (edited 07-26-2001).]

alley_cat · « **Reply #42 on:** July 26, 2001, 05:05:00 am »

Just a question: What is Microsoft Voice Commander anyway? I do not even know if I have it, although Im pretty sure I do not. Is there any way to find out?

alley_cat · « **Reply #43 on:** July 26, 2001, 05:18:00 am »

I went to http://www.radgametools.com/bnkdown.htm and downloded the RAD video tools (was that what I was supposed to download?), installed it, but the movies keep freezing.

[This message has been edited by alley_cat (edited 07-26-2001).]

Nyarlathotep · « **Reply #44 on:** July 26, 2001, 05:31:00 am »

Microsoft Voice Commander, is a thingy with which you can play the game via voice. So yell to the Devastator to hurry up

At least, that is what I think it is (as far as I know the product).

Nyar...

alley_cat · « **Reply #45 on:** July 26, 2001, 05:58:00 am »

You know, that fact that the same lockup problem happened on diffrent computers with very diffrent hardware should show that this problem is fixable by Westwood. Also, the fact that this only happens on campiagns and not on the whole game should also show that this is not a driver/hardware problem, since a thing like that could not possibly a hardware problem.

Nyarlathotep · « **Reply #46 on:** July 26, 2001, 06:11:00 am »

We all agree that It is a weird problem. I am cracking my brain on what it could be.
Still, it does not explain why it worked for me on 4 different comps => that is what is "bothering" me and keeps me going to look for any possible solution, besides asking WW for help.

We know the problem (well, yours and jeromekus anyway. I do not know who else has the exact same problem as you two have) happens on different system specs. We know there are differences between campaign and skirmish mode. One of those differences has to cause the problem somehow, in combination with any hardware/software you have.

****
Devinoch, Dan, ChrisL, could any of you please post what the differences are between campaign and skirmish mode in terms of what the modes use differently as resource concerning Windows and/or hardware ?
****

Thanks in advance for any input.

Nyar...

Nyarlathotep · « **Reply #47 on:** July 26, 2001, 06:18:00 am »

Alley_cat, could you run dxdiag and post the files listed under the tab "DirectX Files" ?

Nyar...

alley_cat · « **Reply #48 on:** July 26, 2001, 08:36:00 am »

-X-ray
A) Why do you need AOL installed? We live in israel man

B) Why do you need NetBEUI?

Nyarlathotep · « **Reply #49 on:** July 26, 2001, 08:43:00 am »

Thanks for posting -x-ray !!

Agreed, the directx does not say enough (yet), but It is the 2nd system where all files are 2000 or older, while the problem comps have some files being from 1999 or even older. I wish someone could post another dxdiag from a system where the game runs fine, and has files from 1999 or older... preferably with Win98 or WinME OS...

Nyar...

[This message has been edited by Nyarlathotep (edited 07-26-2001).]

-X-ray · « **Reply #50 on:** July 26, 2001, 08:58:00 am »

alley, it was not my computer but my sisters.
I have no clue why she has all those things, her computer is like a turtle because she has tons of programs running on the backgroung.
If you check, you will find out that she does not have much of free RAM if at all.
anyway Nyar, I will ask a friend of mine to give me his directX files. to check for a friend with Windows 98 or ME?

Nyarlathotep · « **Reply #51 on:** July 26, 2001, 09:03:00 am »

I think any OS will do, just as long as the game runs fine, that is the only must.

Nyar...

Nyarlathotep · « **Reply #52 on:** July 26, 2001, 09:14:00 am »

Alley, after going over -x-rays sisters E report, I have noticed shes using a lower driver for her voodoo card:

Alleys driver info:
Main Driver : 3dfx16v3.drv
Version : 4.12.01.0666
Provider : 3dfx

-x-rays sisters driver info:
Main Driver : 3dfx16vb.drv
Version : 4.11.01.1222
Provider : 3dfx Interactive, Inc.

I think -x-rays sister is using driver 1.05 ? If so, -x-ray, is the driver (packed) still on the comp ? If so, is there anyway you can provide it to Alley ? or post the link where you have gotten it from.

Nyar...

Nyarlathotep · « **Reply #53 on:** July 26, 2001, 09:22:00 am »

Nevermind, just noticed tHere is a difference... *sigh*

Nyar...

alley_cat · « **Reply #54 on:** July 26, 2001, 09:22:00 am »

soon Im going to my web course where I will have access to the internet, but not to my comp.
so I promise I will install the 1.05 as soon as I get back home.
In the meantime, could you please find me a working link to the 1.05 that is not what Chris gave, and is not this link: http://www.akvasan.co.yu/sr/internet_ftp_drivers_video_voodoo.html since the voodoo 1.05 there is broke.
Thank you in advance.

alley_cat · « **Reply #55 on:** July 26, 2001, 09:25:00 am »

And btw, the reason his sister is not using the same driver version as mine is because she is using a Voodoo Banshee as far as
I understand, and Im using a voodoo3.

Nyarlathotep · « **Reply #56 on:** July 26, 2001, 09:30:00 am »

Like said, tHere is a difference in drivers, just saw it a bit late. Guess Im trying to grab any issue with both hands to try and solve your issues *lol*

Nyar...

Nyarlathotep · « **Reply #57 on:** July 26, 2001, 11:21:00 am »

*sighs and then tHere is an absoluut silence*

alley_cat · « **Reply #58 on:** July 26, 2001, 11:31:00 am »

Im still at my course at the moment, but I found a few links for the 1.05 drivers, which I will install as soon as I get home.
But lets say I install it, how will glsetup (which I have installed) will react?

alley_cat · « **Reply #59 on:** July 26, 2001, 11:32:00 am »

And as you may have noticed, the mods are up and awake now, but do not really take the time to respond here...

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