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Re: Lockup issues! Post here please
« Reply #90 on: July 26, 2001, 08:41:30 am »
number6, thanks for the update !
All help is welcome. Though, I have got it managed by windows with ME, but have to admit, when I used win 98, I did not allow Windows to manage it. As you said, It is worth a try !

Concerning RAM, and the e report being correct, look at what I copied below, remember, the game ran fine on this !

RAM : 127 MB Total
0 MB Free
Virtual RAM : 371 MB Total
242 MB Free

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Re: Lockup issues! Post here please
« Reply #91 on: July 26, 2001, 09:15:30 am »
dune01, sure I will help, you know me  :D

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« Reply #92 on: July 26, 2001, 09:16:30 am »
Oh, one other thing, do skirmish games give you the same problem ?

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« Reply #93 on: July 26, 2001, 09:25:30 am »
I have done most of the stuff that I have seen in the forums and on the FAQ.  I have not tried skirmish or on-line.  I have only got 56K where I live.  I have added all of the same information to my open problem ticket w/ WW Tech Support.  Thanks again, Nyar.
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« Reply #94 on: July 27, 2001, 03:09:00 pm »
Ok, but try the skirmish mode, see if that works (as for 2 or 3 users now, the lock up appears only to be in campaign mode, but work fine while playing skirmish).

Keep us updated with what tech support says !

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« Reply #95 on: July 27, 2001, 03:52:00 pm »
number6, I see you are using voodoo3, but not the latest drivers. What version of the drivers are you using?
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« Reply #96 on: July 27, 2001, 04:34:00 am »
Well Im back with a lockup problem.  The game freezes on the skirmish and multiplayer player selection screens.  The game worked fine with my Geforce 2, but has this lockup problem with my Geforce 3.  I have adjusted the hardware accleration in device manager, adjusted the refresh rate of the monitor and adapter, reinstalled the game, and reinstalled directx 8.  I still can not fix the problem.

Here is my specs from the EZ program from WW.

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     Video Card                    : NVIDIA GeForce3
     Video Driver                  : nvdisp.drv
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     Sound Card                    : Creative Ensoniq AudioPCI
     Sound Driver                  : sbpci.vxd
     Driver Version                : 4.06.00.2001

     DirectX                       : DirectX 8
     Operating System                Windows 98  A  4.10.2222

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     Computer Name                 : Cinder

BIOS Info
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     Version                       : Award Modular BIOS v6.00PG
     PNP                           : Plug and Play BIOS
     Manufacturer                  : (Standard system devices)

CPU Info

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     CPU Type                      : 798 MHz AuthenticAMD Athlon
                                     6 2 1

     RAM                           : 255 MB Total
                                     176 MB Free
     Virtual RAM                   : 1792 MB Total
                                     1792 MB Free

     Operating System              : Windows 98  A  4.10.2222


     Default Browser               : Internet Explorer
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     Temp Directory                : C:WINDOWSTEMP
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----Display Info--------------------------------------------

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     Current Mode (Primary)        : 800x600 16
     Refresh Rate (Primary)        : Adapter Default

Primary display device

     Description                   : NVIDIA GeForce3
     Manufacturer                  : NVIDIA
     Video Memory                  : 64 MB

     Main Driver                   : nvdisp.drv
     Version                       : 4.13.01.1241
     Provider                      : NVIDIA
     

Supported Display Modes

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     800 x 600|      |   *   |    *   |       |   *  
     1024x 768|      |   *   |    *   |       |   *  
     1152x 864|      |       |        |       |      
     1280x1024|      |       |        |       |      
     1600x1200|      |       |        |       |      

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     Description                   : Creative Ensoniq AudioPCI
     Manufacturer                  : Creative

     Main Driver                   : sbpci.vxd
     Version                       : 4.06.00.2001
     Provider                      :

  Description       : Wave Device for Voice Modem
     Manufacturer                  : Creative Labs Inc.

     Main Driver                   : serwave.vxd
     Version                       : 4.10.00.2222
     Provider                      :

     Description                   : Creative Ensoniq AudioPCI Legacy Device
     Manufacturer                  : Creative

     Main Driver                   :
     Version                       :
     Provider                      :

     Description                   : Creative Gameport Joystick
     Manufacturer                  : Creative

     Main Driver                   : vjoyd.vxd
     Version                       : 4.08.00.0400
     Provider                      :

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----Direct X------------------------------------------------

DirectX Info
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DirectDraw Info
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     Certified                     : Not certified

DirectSound Info
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     Certified                     : Not certified

DirectPlay Info
     Version                       : 4.03.00.1096

DirectInput Info
     Version                       : 4.08.00.0400

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----Drive Information---------------------------------------

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     Cache size                    : 1238 KB
     Access Pattern                : Quad-speed or higher

Drive Letter A
     Volume Name                   :
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     File System                   :
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     Free Space                    : 0.00 KB

Drive Letter C
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     File System                   : FAT32
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     Free Space                    : 9.25 GB

Drive Letter D
     Volume Name                   : EMPEROR1
     Type                          : CDRom
     File System                   : CDFS
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     Free Space                    : 0.00 KB
     Sec/MB                        : Test not performed
     Detected Speed                : Test not performed

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----Monitor Information-------------------------------------

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     Bound Protocols
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          TCP/IP
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          NetBEUI

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Mouse Information

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     Type                          : PS2


Keyboard Information

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     Provider                      :

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----Glide/OpenGL Information--------------------------------

Glide Info

     Glide2 Version                :
     Glide3 Version                :

OpenGL Info

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----Task List-----------------------------------------------

msgsrv32.exe
mprexe.exe
mmtask.tsk
Explorer
Systray
point32.exe
wmiexe.exe
ddhelp.exe
emperor battle for dune_ez.exe

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----Autoexec.bat--------------------------------------------

SET BLASTER=A220 I7 D1 H7 P330 T6

SET SBPCI=C:AUDIOPCI

rem TShoot: @C:PROGRA~1NORTON~1NAVDX.EXE /Startup

rem - By Windows Setup - C:WINDOWSCOMMANDMSCDEX.EXE /D:MSCD001 /M:10

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----Config.sys----------------------------------------------

DEVICE=C:WINDOWSHIMEM.SYS

DEVICE=C:WINDOWSEMM386.EXE

[common]

DEVICE=C:CDROMCDTECH.SYS /D:MSCD001 /UDMA2 /V

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X_CASE_START
X_CASE_DESCRIPTION: The game locks up on the player selection screens, for both skirmish and multiplayer.
X_CONTACT_FIRST_NAME:
X_CONTACT_LAST_NAME:
X_GAME: Emperor: Battle for Dune
X_SERIAL_KEY: ---
X_OPERATING_SYSTEM: Windows 98  A , Version 4.10, Build 2222
X_PROCESSOR: Athlon
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X_MANUFACTURER:
X_PRODUCT_ID:
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X_MODEM: Creative Modem Blaster Flash56 PCI DI5630
X_V_MANUFACTURER: NVIDIA
X_A_MANUFACTURER: Creative
X_CASE_END
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Re: Lockup issues! Post here please
« Reply #97 on: July 27, 2001, 04:47:00 am »
I will continue in this thread Killwithsound:

When you changed video cards, before swapping them, did you set the display adapter in windows - control panel - system - device manager to vga default ?

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Re: Lockup issues! Post here please
« Reply #98 on: July 27, 2001, 05:11:00 am »
sure did.  that is standard practice for card changes.
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Offline Nyarlathotep

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Re: Lockup issues! Post here please
« Reply #99 on: July 27, 2001, 05:12:00 am »
okay, just checking...

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« Reply #100 on: July 27, 2001, 05:28:00 am »
This might get funny... I went to the visiontek website and under the post of "game specific lock ups" it says:

"2) Contact the video game manufacturer for updates or patches to resolve problems. You may also review the web site of the game manufacturer for possible FAQs or troubleshooting tips. These tips are often found in the "tech support" or "support" section of their web site."

correct me if Im wrong...but is not wws statement "check with your videocard manufacturer" ?  :D

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« Reply #101 on: July 27, 2001, 05:31:00 am »
Killwithsound, did you try this:

"Run uninstall program for previous video card drivers, then reinstall latest drivers for VisionTek graphic accelerator. You may need to boot into safe mode to uninstall the drivers for the VisionTek card and your old card and then perform a "clean install" with latest drivers posted on our web site."

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« Reply #102 on: July 27, 2001, 05:31:00 am »
Thanks for your Help Nyar. I am continuing to look into the problem as well.  I will let you know if I come up with anything.

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« Reply #103 on: July 27, 2001, 05:41:00 am »
I am trying that as we speak.  I doubt that it will work though.  I had done a clean install before, but that was with Nvidias reference drivers.  I am downloading Visionteks drivers, but Im pretty sure that they are one and the same set of drivers, but Im giving it a shoot anyway.

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« Reply #104 on: July 27, 2001, 05:43:00 am »
One difference between your driver and mine:

Yours:
Description : NVIDIA GeForce3
Manufacturer : NVIDIA
Video Memory : 64 MB

Main Driver : nvdisp.drv
Version : 4.13.01.1241
Provider : NVIDIA

Mine:

Description : ASUS V8200 Series v12.10a
Manufacturer : (Standard display types)
Video Memory : 64 MB

Main Driver : nvdisp.drv
Version : 4.13.01.1210
Provider : ASUS

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Re: Lockup issues! Post here please
« Reply #105 on: July 27, 2001, 05:44:00 am »
alley_cat,

  I am using the 1.04 drivers for my voodoo card.
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« Reply #106 on: July 27, 2001, 05:45:00 am »
does not hurt to try  :D

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Re: Lockup issues! Post here please
« Reply #107 on: July 27, 2001, 05:50:00 am »
number6, you are early  :)

Could you post any links where to get them from for Alley ?

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« Reply #108 on: July 27, 2001, 05:53:00 am »
Killwithsound,

   Just a thought that popped in my head, but have you considered what the power requirements for the Geforce 3 might be? It may be trying to draw more power from your motherboard than the Geforce 2 did and your power supply might not be able to handle it. what is the power rating of your power supply? Is it at least 300W? I know this sounds like a crazy question. If all of your drivers are up to date, that makes me start thinking about the hardware.
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« Reply #109 on: July 27, 2001, 05:57:00 am »
To support what number6 just said, copied below from Visiontek:

"5) The VisionTek graphic accelerators powered by NVIDIA’s GeForce chip have an appetite for power. VisionTek recommends system with a power supply 250W or higher.

6) Your motherboard must be capable of providing adequate voltage to the AGP card. The AGP 2.0 specification requires 6A at 3.3V for the AGP socket and 2A at 5.0V for the AGP memory. The VisionTek GeForce will consume up to 6A at 3.3V and 2A at 5.0V when running video intensive applications such as 3D games."

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« Reply #110 on: July 27, 2001, 06:00:00 am »
nyar,

   This site that was posted by Chis from Westwood is a good link:

http://www.gamers-ammo.com/v3.html

It has voodoo3 drivers all the way back to 1.00.

I am downloading a file from there now.

Yes, I am in early today. I want to leave work early, It is Friday.


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« Reply #111 on: July 27, 2001, 06:01:00 am »
I just tried the clean install, and no luck.  A strange thing occured though, the display was, (for the first time,) using the resolution that I had selected for the game.  Before with this card and the old one, the display was on a constant 800x600 res.  The game would always play at the resolution that I had selected though.  Anyway I digress.  About the power issue, all my other games work fine with the new card.  Max Payne and Anarchy online, as well as campaign mode for EB4D.  Also I like to add that I have adjusted my desktop res to match the game res, no luck.  And I have made it not match as well.  Still no luck.  

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« Reply #112 on: July 27, 2001, 06:15:00 am »
Well Im going to log off the net for the day, and continue to try and fix this problem.  Let me know if you think of anything.  Thanks for the help.

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« Reply #113 on: July 27, 2001, 06:32:00 am »
Im afraid that the 1.04 drivers are just too old, and may not be compatible with too much other games. Untill the tech support will tell me to do so, I will not. If they will tell me, fine.
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« Reply #114 on: July 27, 2001, 06:45:00 am »
alley_cat,

  I play a lot of games and these drivers work great. The newer 3dfx drivers caused problems for a lot of my 3D games like homeworld. So I went back to the older drivers and have not had a single problem. The only game that has a problem now for me it "Shogun: Total War". There is a known incompatability with the Voodoo chipset and this game. When it rains in that game the rain droplets are not translucent and appear as black dots. I have tried every Voodoo driver and none of them fix this. Since to my knowledge new drivers are not being made for the voodoo series of cards I will probably be getting a new video card eventually.
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« Reply #115 on: July 27, 2001, 06:47:00 am »
alley_cat, you have voodoo3, right?
well, I have talked with the "telerom" tech-support once again (they started to recognize my voice already), and i asked them also about the voodoo3 problem on E:b4d.
they got a special patch for it, which solve the problem.
call them: 09-9712606
tell them raymond sent ya =)
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« Reply #116 on: July 27, 2001, 07:39:00 am »
number6, superstitious as I am, I will only use the 1.04 as a last option, and if the tech support will tell me to. At the moment I started talking to them and hope we can work something out. I also have glsetup that I think that works only with the latest version of the drivers. Thanks anyway.  :)
I called the number you gave me and left a message (since It is Friday today) and hope they will answer me soon.
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« Reply #117 on: July 27, 2001, 10:05:00 am »
Alley, I just called a friend of mine who also has a Voodoo 3, and hes also running a lower driver (I believe It is 1.05). He has no problems with the game what so ever.

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« Reply #118 on: July 27, 2001, 10:21:00 am »
You know my problem about the 1.05 drivers, and Im not going to even try the 1.04 until no other option is available. could be that the 1.04 also will not support my computer.
number6, can you give me other examples of new 3d games that work for you with these drivers (B&W, Startopia etc..)?
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« Reply #119 on: July 27, 2001, 10:22:00 am »
This whole issue with locking up is getting weird...

"all my other games work fine with the new card. Max Payne and Anarchy online, as well as campaign mode for EB4D"
So, Killwithsound is able to play campaign mode, but not skirmish...Alley and jeromeku are only able to play skirmish and not campaign mode, -x-ray is not able to play skirmish and campaign mode ...ehrr..*has a strange feeling like his head is spinning around*...  :)
In the meantime, we will continue...

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